System of Systems

They're All Gonna Fail (w/ Marc Horowitz)

Jul 29, 2021

In this exclusive interview, Adam talks to California-based artist Marc Horowitz (husband to previous guest Petra Cortright, a kind of full circle) to talk about his career and his life. Marc grew up "poor as fuck" in Middle America before moving to California to get a degree in business. One thing leading to the next,...

An "UnWoke Racist Fantasia" (w/ Glen Rockney)

Jul 21, 2021

Friend of the show and co-host of the Rare Candy podcast Glen Rockney joins the boys to discuss the career of who we think is the best American filmmaker to emerge in the 2010s, S. Craig Zahler. Discussing all three of his films — Bone Tomahawk, Brawl in Cell Block 99, and Dragged Across Concrete — the...

Martin, Into the Corner (featuring Gio Pennacchietti)

Jul 5, 2021

The boys are joined by friend, artist, writer and co-host of the Break the Rules Podcast Gio Pennacchietti to discuss PAINTING. Painting, so much and so little to say. Its history, its dreary present. The tendency towards what Dean Kissick calls "zombie figuration" and what separates the brilliance of Matthew Barney...